THE DILLINGER ESCAPE PLAN : interview with
face to face by dalia "gryphon_spirit" di giacomo ___
at Abart Music Club in Zürich - 17.11.2004 - European Tour 2004
organized by Irascible Distribution and gryphonmetal.ch
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Speaking about technicality, music influences, crazy mix of body parts, fans, reality shows, other signs of decay and
I am here in Zürich together with Greg, vocalist /frontman of The Dillinger
is playing in the band right now at Brian's place?
have a friend of ours, named James, he's a guitar wizard...man, he was a
person we knew that really wasn't in a band and basically just playing out
on his own...he's such a total shredder! He learned all of our songs
within three weeks and our songs are like pretty hard to learn. We didn't
think we'd find a fill-in because there is so much material and it is
difficult to learn, but he really stepped up to the challenge and is doing
great and he'll be with us this whole tour.
are some of your impressions about the first part of the European
We've been here for about a week and a half and we've only been so to Germany and Holland so far. Since we got here so far, they've been better than any other European shows we've [ever] played. Like, we never do well in Germany and we usually only do okay in Holland and we did great in Germany and Holland this time, so I'm just so glad because in the past we would go to those two countries and we'd just cross our fingers and hope that people came. Sometimes we'd play to 1000 kids in England and then [go] to Germany and there would be 100 kids and well...this makes it sometimes financially difficult for us to come to Europe because we have no idea how, sometimes, how to do it in different countries. But, every show has been pretty much sold out so far, we don't really know why but we are really happy haha.
the way England you will be supported by Ephel Duath there!
Yeah they are Italian right? HAHA, last time we were in Italy we played there and they opened for us, I can't remember the place but they were really good and [they are] really good musicians [too and] we are excited to play with them again.
you think Miss Machine is a technical album?
I don't think I'm real comfortable with that term. We are really aware
that some people are trying to put us in that category of technical music,
but the thing that I think separates bands that concentrate on
technicality from us, is that we really are only concerned with writing
good songs and how the parts make you feel as a listener and whether or
not the songs are difficult to play. I just really think that, it so
happens that we have people in our band who are really gifted musicians,
like our drummer is really gifted as well as our guitar players, so
naturally the things that they play are more difficult than the things
that [other] people cannot play their instruments that well…[Some of
those people] never ever sit down and decide to write a song or a part
just because it is technical because there is plenty of Classical music
where there's people that could shred anyone in our band, so I don't
understand the whole technical term.
We just want to write good songs and like I said, the guys are
really good musicians and its kind of annoying to be thought of that way.
are some of you musical influences? Like Jazz...
right, yeah, we listen to everything ya know, we listen to heavy music,
metal and hardcore. We also listen to Jazz, Classical and a lot of Instrumental
music like Aphex Twin and Brian Eno a lot, a lot of Soundtrack music… We
also listen to R&B and Pop and some Hip Hop and whatever normal people
listen to. I think that is important to not limit yourself to one style of
music and to just take everything in, whatever you like you like. I don't
have any qualms about liking a pop song I don't think there is any
validity behind a Death-metal song or a Hardcore song then there is behind
a pop song, if it is a well written song and the people that are
playing the music are sincere about what they are doing I don't think
there should be any barriers of what you should listen to.
well...and Miss Machine's
cover art is...
yeah :) and... how would you describe your typical fan?
really a hard question because we have a lot of different types of fans we
have like hardcore kids and metal kids but we also have people that don't
really listen to heavy music that like this band because their drummer
wants to watch our drummer Chris or their guitar player wants to watch Ben
play guitar, I don't know I don't think we have a typical type of fan to
be honest with you especially it's hard when you come from the US to over
here like kids are a little different I just think it's fair to kids to
group them all into one caste.
aggressive and great vocalist that you are, do you feel a certain kind
not all I think we really support one another, ya know, I have met those
guys a lot ya know, and I don't feel like we sound alike at all and
honestly I don't think our music sounds similar either so, I think there
is room for everybody ya know, I think it's really exciting that more
people are taking more notice to aggressive music nowadays and that I
think over the last few years there hasn't really been a lot of real good
aggressive music in the mainstream I really think kids have been deprived
they gotta listen to things like Disturbed and Limp Bizkit and stuff like
that so it's really good to see bands like us converge and Shadows Fall,
Killswitch Engage, and Lamb of God start to do well, I don't feel
competition with any of those guys we are just happy that we all are doing
have spoken with many fans and musicians and everyone is saying DEP is
great! Incredible, very positive comments, what is your formula or your
point of focus?
don't really know we didn't really expect his album, we didn't know what
to think when we released this album we thought a lot of people were going
to be confused by it. Because there are things on it that we have never
done before, there is some melody on the album, and we never had actual
singing before. There are some more spatial arrangements and before we
played just real fast and crazy as possible at all times so we didn't know
what to think, but everybody and the all the feedback has been so
positive. But I don't like to think about what we have already done. Like
I want to keep making sure that we are looking forward, instead of
dwelling on what we have already accomplished, I don’t know, when I
think of great bands like I think of...well I don't think of us so its
hard for me to think of that, but other people think that's awesome and I
think that is great.
you think your band is a symbol of the North Eastern area?
I definately feel that they associate, at least in the US, DEP with
your opinion, what is the biggest sign of decay?
a clear sign of decay
oh! I agree!
think seriously, it is a horrible thing, but I read a poll today on-line
that said that Americans are getting sick of reality TV and that's good.
No seriously, I think there are definate recent signs of decay; the recent
re-election of George W. Bush is a pretty big sign of things that are
wrong. I think in general, things are a bit apathetical, I mean, young
people don't think they matter and they feel that whatever they do, won't
matter and just feel lazy, I don't know, I think that's like, I just image
how my parents were when they were young and I think there was just a ton
of activism, even in the early 90's there was a lot of activism and young
people cared about things like politics and society but nowadays people
just want instant gratification they just want a quick fix like reality TV
or something like that. It is said that only one out of 10 people age
18-26 have voted in the last US election and that's really sad. Why would
1 out of 10 of the future of our country vote it doesn't make sense.
Miss Machine there is a track called "We are the Storm ? Musically,
are DEP like a storm?
that track was originally call Miss Machine that was going to be
last question, this last question is one of our typical Gryphonmetal
questions; we call it "The Game Of The Tower." We ask this
questions to all the bands that we first interview. There is a very high
tower, and on top of this tower there are three bands waiting for you, and
you have to kick down two of them saving only one, and the three bands for
you are... Pantera,
Whoa! Death is one of my favorite bands of all time ever. Chuck Shuldiner is seriously one of the reasons I ever I started playing guitar or singing, honestly, I love that guy and I was so pissed and upset when I found out he died...it's not even close for me it's like I don’t even like Pantera at all so that was easy, Meshuggah I like but, Death, I listen to Death almost everyday honestly, the album " Human " they put out is, for me, one of the most important albums I have ever heard in my life and I don't think I would be playing in this band if it wasn’t for that band, so it was very easy.
has been a pleasure Greg! Thank you very much! See you later on stage!
thank you so much!
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